Talk:Art Rytus

Otto's full name is Otto Psi and Roméo's full name is Roméo Patti, according to what Hunch said in an old thread. Does Gonzo have a surname too? Spiraldoor 17:55, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Well it's a bit more complicated. The French names are Otto Psi, Roméo Patti and Garatta Ciatik, which are puns by the way. The original English names, as they were displayed in RZ in 2003, are Kal Ory, Al Urgic and Art Rytus. However, during the translation of the game, those were replaced with Otto, Romeo and Gonzo (from what I've read). And as if it weren't enough of a mess, the third Teensie doctor has another name, Anna Lyse, but I don't remember where it comes from.

We should find a way to mention this in the corresponding articles.

— Hunchman801 11:19, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

In the meantime we'll just redirect. -- StaceyW ♬ 11:30, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

All these names are puns on medical terms: autopsy, aromeopathy, arthritis, calory, allergic, analyse. Is Gonzo the first part of a pun on something? Spiraldoor 14:55, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

I would highly doubt that. Should we put in all the names as an 'also known as:' section? --iHeckler9 12:33, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

What is the source for the name "Gonzo"? Also, should we remove the "Anna Lyse" name since the source is unknown at the moment? --Elite piranha (talk) 05:58, 5 July 2020 (CEST)

I'm pretty sure Anna Lyse wasn't made up, so we might want to keep looking for the origin of the term. As for Gonzo, isn't that what he's called in the game? Can't remember. — 17:26, 7 July 2020 (CEST)

The third doctor is never called by his name in the game itself (English and French versions). I don't know where the English names on his wiki page come from too. --Boomboleros7 19:12, 7 July 2020 (CEST)

It seems that the name "Anna Lyse" appears in several polish websites; for example in the profile of Janusz Zadura, the polish voice actor for the Teensie doctors, the name "Anna Lyse" appears. --Elite piranha (talk) 01:35, 9 July 2020 (CEST)

In Raymap, Gonzo is called "TDoc_Zen" (Otto is "TDoc_Gestapo" and Roméo is "TDoc_Beatnik"). The name "Gonzo" was at some point in Wikipedia, but it was removed years ago. --Elite Piranha 06:13, 7 November 2021 (CET)

So there's no source at all for the name "Gonzo"? Plumgmk (talk) 13:10, 7 November 2021 (CET)

I think the best source we have at the moment is Hunchman801. I tried looking for "Gonzo" in the Rayman-Fanpage (using Google), but found nothing. --Elite Piranha 17:25, 7 November 2021 (CET)

I'm afraid I won't be of much help here: like I explained above, I assumed the name "Gonzo" (which I did not add to the article) was from the English version of the game, but boombo told us it's not the case. The earliest mentions of that name on the forum are from 2007; later in 2008, when RayWiki articles were being created, Holy Crap remarked that there was no source for the name "Gonzo", despite it being on Wikipedia. It appears that the article, unlike those for the other two doctors, was not created before 2009, and under its current name, which has gone unchallenged since. In the absence of a single source, we should at least move the article to "Art Rytus" or "Garatta Ciatik". As for removing mentions of "Gonzo", RayWiki is so authoritative that it has almost made that name "true" over the years, not to mention all the links pointing to the current URL, so we should keep the redirect and maybe even still mention it in the article. — 13:45, 24 November 2021 (CET)

Oh God, sounds like citogenesis in its purest form! We should have listened to HC! XD Plumgmk (talk) 14:11, 24 November 2021 (CET)

I wanted to add one last thing. In June 2005, the character was referred as "unamed Asian doctor" in the english Wikipedia article for Rayman 3. In July 2005 it was changed to "Art Rytus (name not mentioned in game)". In December 2005 the name "Gonzo" started to show up in the article (this is the earliest mention of the name that I could find anywhere) and apparently it stayed there for years until it was removed in February 2015. So, I second the idea of moving the article to "Art Rytus", since the FAQ document it came from has the date of December 9th, 2002 in the metadata of the file; the name ""Garatta Ciatik" seems to had appeared later in January 29th, 2003 (according to the metadata from the file "Dossier Presse Rayman 3.pdf"). --Elite Piranha 09:12, 27 September 2023 (CEST)

Thanks Elite, I have moved the article and updated the references. I will use a bot to automatically update all links, but manual adjustments may be needed. — 10:49, 27 September 2023 (CEST)

Yay! 🥳 I can't believe it's already been almost two years since that conversation! 😅 Plumgmk (talk) 10:54, 27 September 2023 (CEST)