I have edited the Trivia section according to this text from the official Rayman 3 site published in 2003:
Unique descendant de la lignée des Shoedsackovskaïa, le Comte Razoff s'est installé il y a bien longtemps dans les marais afin de perpétuer la tradition familiale. En effet, chaque membre doit ramener à l'âge adulte une proie extraordinaire. Malheureusement, Razoff n'a jamais trouvé de proie à la hauteur de celle de ses ancêtres : le légendaire Abominable Géranium des Mers de Cacatoès ou la Space Mama de la Cité des Images.
I can't be bothered to translate it right now but basically, it says that Razoff failed to perpetuate the family tradition consisting in capturing an extraordinary prey, and it mentions two of them: the legendary Abominable Geranium of the Seas of Cockatoo and the Space Mama of Picture City. Nowhere is Zaroff mentioned as the one who captured the latter, neither is it said that she was shot.
Any new modifications will be welcome in the light of valid sources.
— Hunchman801 13:21, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
Ah.... i get it.... when i read Spiral's post about this:
'Only descendant of the Shoedsackovskaïa family, Count Razoff settled a long time ago in the swamps in order to perpetuate the familial tradition. In fact, each member must come back once adult with an extraordinary prey. Unfortunately, Razoff has never found a prey matching up to those of his ancestors: the legendary Abominable Geranium of the Seas of Cockatoo or the Space Mama of Picture City.
I get the impression that his paternal grandfather, Nimrod, shot the Abominable Geranium, and his father, Zaroff, shot Space Mama. ~Spiral
I thought that Nimrod really shot Geranium and Zarrof shot Space mama.... but it was only what he thought :P ~R4321
'This is the world of images, and also the world of mirages: passing across the stage of a small theatre, Rayman can find on his path beings straight from a pirate or a science fiction film. In particular, he meets Mama, an impressive shrew armed with a bizarre rolling pin...'
Nowhere in there does it say her name is Space Mama. I believe her name is actually Mama and the two versions of herself are Viking Mama and Space Mama. Also it would explain the different set-up of the pirates; before they were dressed like Vikings, but then maybe Mama decided to go more powerful and dress up as a spacewoman; presumably her minions did too.Iheckler9 20:21, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
- I know what you mean, and you do have a point. Likewise it might be appropriate to move 'Mr Skops' to 'Skops the Scorpion', which is what the manual calls him. But I don't think we should do either of these things. People have been calling her 'Space Mama' for fifteen years now... it would be a bit weird and pointless for us to change our official stance to the much more generic name 'Mama'. She has two identities, the 'Space Mama' and the untitled 'Pirate Mama' – 'Space Mama' is her final, more powerful and more 'true' form, and it's the only one given by the game itself. It's also the one used in the description of the exploits of the Shoedsackovskaïa family. I really think we should let this particular sleeping dog lie. Everyone is always going to call her 'Space Mama', no matter what we do. —Spiraldoor 14:41, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
- I'm sure that because there is a Space Mama (in space) and a Space Mama in 'Viking getup', the latter should be called Viking Mama. However, I am aware that the name is unofficial, so discard my changes if you see fit. --iHeckler9 16:24, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
In the game manual for the NTSC release, it describes Space Mama as "a tough cookie with a deadly rolling pin", though the wording could be different in the PAL version. It's a minor thing, but I want to make sure before I edit the page. --technology4617 (talk) 07:00, 26 August 2013 (CEST)
- The current quote at the top of the page is definitely used in at least some of the European manuals. Feel free to include the alternative quote if it's different enough, but if they've only changed a few words, it's best to discuss it in the article prose instead. —Spiraldoor 22:36, 26 August 2013 (CEST)