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==Nettles and darkroots== | |||
They do seem a nettle redesign for Rayman Origins. I would suggest to aglutinate this article with the main one about nettles, and the RO kind having its own section. --[[Image:Sparkle.gif]][[User:Haruka|Haruka]][[Image:Sparkle.gif]] 12:55, 24 December 2011 (UTC) | They do seem a nettle redesign for Rayman Origins. I would suggest to aglutinate this article with the main one about nettles, and the RO kind having its own section. --[[Image:Sparkle.gif]][[User:Haruka|Haruka]][[Image:Sparkle.gif]] 12:55, 24 December 2011 (UTC) | ||
:The things we call [[nettle]]s are obviously not [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nettle nettles] at all, so I think it was probably a bad translation. 'Darkroot' is a much better description of the thorny brown roots we find in Rayman 2 and Rayman 3. —[[User:Spiraldoor|Spiraldoor]] [[File:IconSpiralDoor.png|link=User:Spiraldoor]] 13:57, 24 December 2011 (UTC) | :The things we call [[nettle]]s are obviously not [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nettle nettles] at all, so I think it was probably a bad translation. 'Darkroot' is a much better description of the thorny brown roots we find in Rayman 2 and Rayman 3. —[[User:Spiraldoor|Spiraldoor]] [[File:IconSpiralDoor.png|link=User:Spiraldoor]] 13:57, 24 December 2011 (UTC) | ||
::I saw this article before, and I wondered if the name was correct because both plants do look different. I always believed that the "nettles" were giant roots. --[[Image:Sparkle.gif]][[User:Haruka|Haruka]][[Image:Sparkle.gif]] 14:37, 24 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
:::With the influx of renamed 'Dark' things, such as Darktoons, previously called Antitoons, I think the Darkroot might be a rename of the nettle. It's either that or they are two different species. --[[User:Iheckler9|iHeckler9]][[File:Life.gif|link=User:Iheckler9]] 16:25, 24 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
:::I'm not sure if we should relate nettles with Darkroots. They have several phisical differences like the eyes and colour, and their behaviours are completely different in-game: the nettles move constantly like the tentacles of an octopus, and dissappear for a while when rayman attacks them, while the Darkroots can't be defeated and grow until they find a place to stay. Also, Darkroots seem to have a major role in Rayman Origins (they appear during the opening sequence). However, mentioning the "nettles" article is not a bad idea ^^ --[[User:Sergiomonty|Sergiomonty]] 17:31, 24 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
::::I was about to suggest that we merge the articles as I could not see any difference between 'nettles' and darkroots but I guess Sergio has a point when it comes to their different behaviour. Though that's really the only difference, and we might still want to merge them. What do you guys think? —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png|link=User:Hunchman801]] 16:22, 26 March 2014 (CET) | |||
After [[Talk:Spiky ball|our talk about the spiky balls]] some days ago, I wanted to get back on that one. Don't you think the nettles and the roots could be the same plants? There are a lot of similarities between then: | |||
:- They are invasive plants | |||
:- They have different sizes (cf. the nettle patches in the Menhir Hills) | |||
:- There are many variants (cf. the nettles in ''Rayman M'' and ''R3 GBA'') | |||
:- They are able to destroy walls | |||
:- Some move, some don't (cf. the nettle patches in the Menhir Hills) | |||
:- Rayman can't destroy them (with his fists or his magic fist) -- [[User:Boomboleros7|Boomboleros7]] 02:26, 1 September 2014 (CEST) | |||
::Darkroots retreat on their own, and nettles can't do that. The darkroots also have eyes. They're different species and deserve different pages. --[[User:Iheckler9|iHeckler9]][[File:Life.gif|link=User:Iheckler9]] 14:28, 1 September 2014 (CEST) | |||
:::I think 'nettle' only refers to the moving ones that retract when hit, which makes Sergio's point rather valid though. Any other opinions? —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png|link=User:Hunchman801]] 15:28, 1 September 2014 (CEST) | |||
:After a discussion with Hunch, we decide to create an article dedicated to the spiky plants of the ''Rayman'' games on the French wiki. | |||
:To do this, we fuse the "Nettle" and "Darkroot" articles. We also create a new article for the skeletal and metallic nettles of RM, called "Tentacle (Rayman M)" (as they aren't plants, but things with the same pattern as the Nettles). | |||
:In French, the R2 plants have been identified as "(giant) brambles" and "(giant) roots" by the official strategy guide. The R3 ones are incorrectly called "nettles" in-game, but called "roots" in the official guide. The RO/RL ones are called "roots" in the title of some RJR levels. | |||
:The French article has been called "Giant bramble", by using the RayWiki's policy (this is the most used term in the R2 guide from 2000). | |||
:The same changes could be applied on the English wiki, but then, we should change the title of the spiky plants article, because we can't keep the incorrect "nettle" term. | |||
:By using the RayWiki's policy, it could be called "Thorn vines", a term used in the Prima's official strategy guide from 2000. | |||
:By doing so, the first line of the article will be: "'''Thorn vines''', also known as '''nettles''', '''roots''', '''darkroots''' and '''spiky roots'''".--[[User:Boomboleros7|Boomboleros7]] 17:23, 31 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
Latest revision as of 17:23, 31 July 2016
Nettles and darkroots
They do seem a nettle redesign for Rayman Origins. I would suggest to aglutinate this article with the main one about nettles, and the RO kind having its own section. --
Haruka
12:55, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
- The things we call nettles are obviously not nettles at all, so I think it was probably a bad translation. 'Darkroot' is a much better description of the thorny brown roots we find in Rayman 2 and Rayman 3. —Spiraldoor
13:57, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
- I saw this article before, and I wondered if the name was correct because both plants do look different. I always believed that the "nettles" were giant roots. --
Haruka
14:37, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
- With the influx of renamed 'Dark' things, such as Darktoons, previously called Antitoons, I think the Darkroot might be a rename of the nettle. It's either that or they are two different species. --iHeckler9
16:25, 24 December 2011 (UTC) - I'm not sure if we should relate nettles with Darkroots. They have several phisical differences like the eyes and colour, and their behaviours are completely different in-game: the nettles move constantly like the tentacles of an octopus, and dissappear for a while when rayman attacks them, while the Darkroots can't be defeated and grow until they find a place to stay. Also, Darkroots seem to have a major role in Rayman Origins (they appear during the opening sequence). However, mentioning the "nettles" article is not a bad idea ^^ --Sergiomonty 17:31, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
- I was about to suggest that we merge the articles as I could not see any difference between 'nettles' and darkroots but I guess Sergio has a point when it comes to their different behaviour. Though that's really the only difference, and we might still want to merge them. What do you guys think? —


16:22, 26 March 2014 (CET)
- I was about to suggest that we merge the articles as I could not see any difference between 'nettles' and darkroots but I guess Sergio has a point when it comes to their different behaviour. Though that's really the only difference, and we might still want to merge them. What do you guys think? —
- With the influx of renamed 'Dark' things, such as Darktoons, previously called Antitoons, I think the Darkroot might be a rename of the nettle. It's either that or they are two different species. --iHeckler9
- I saw this article before, and I wondered if the name was correct because both plants do look different. I always believed that the "nettles" were giant roots. --
After our talk about the spiky balls some days ago, I wanted to get back on that one. Don't you think the nettles and the roots could be the same plants? There are a lot of similarities between then:
- - They are invasive plants
- - They have different sizes (cf. the nettle patches in the Menhir Hills)
- - There are many variants (cf. the nettles in Rayman M and R3 GBA)
- - They are able to destroy walls
- - Some move, some don't (cf. the nettle patches in the Menhir Hills)
- - Rayman can't destroy them (with his fists or his magic fist) -- Boomboleros7 02:26, 1 September 2014 (CEST)
- Darkroots retreat on their own, and nettles can't do that. The darkroots also have eyes. They're different species and deserve different pages. --iHeckler9
14:28, 1 September 2014 (CEST)
- Darkroots retreat on their own, and nettles can't do that. The darkroots also have eyes. They're different species and deserve different pages. --iHeckler9
- After a discussion with Hunch, we decide to create an article dedicated to the spiky plants of the Rayman games on the French wiki.
- To do this, we fuse the "Nettle" and "Darkroot" articles. We also create a new article for the skeletal and metallic nettles of RM, called "Tentacle (Rayman M)" (as they aren't plants, but things with the same pattern as the Nettles).
- In French, the R2 plants have been identified as "(giant) brambles" and "(giant) roots" by the official strategy guide. The R3 ones are incorrectly called "nettles" in-game, but called "roots" in the official guide. The RO/RL ones are called "roots" in the title of some RJR levels.
- The French article has been called "Giant bramble", by using the RayWiki's policy (this is the most used term in the R2 guide from 2000).
- The same changes could be applied on the English wiki, but then, we should change the title of the spiky plants article, because we can't keep the incorrect "nettle" term.
- By using the RayWiki's policy, it could be called "Thorn vines", a term used in the Prima's official strategy guide from 2000.
- By doing so, the first line of the article will be: "Thorn vines, also known as nettles, roots, darkroots and spiky roots".--Boomboleros7 17:23, 31 July 2016 (UTC)