Talk:Mocking Bird

Giant Bird?

Why did Hunchman change the name? I thought everybody here agreed to call it "Mocking Bird"--Sergiomonty 15:02, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

I believe that the title isn't conclusive enough for the bird being named as "Mocking Bird". That's why. --Haruka 15:49, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

It was conclusive enough for me. The level is called 'To Bubblize a Mocking Bird', and the objective is to bubblize... a Mocking Bird. The fact that the name happens to contain a pun doesn't negate it in my view. 'Giant bird' doesn't make much sense as an alternative, as the bird is only a giant in his corrupt form. —Spiraldoor 15:58, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

We needed to hear more opinions because it seems we are splitted. --Haruka 19:04, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

The phrase "Mocking Bird" is the only official source that we have from the game; the game suggests us to simply call it like that. if it sounds ridiculous or not that's not our problem, but "Giant Bird" just sounds poorly made up. No offense--Sergiomonty 01:02, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

I don't find offensive but if we all arrived onto an agreement, regardless what it would be the final name for the bird, I wouldn't mind with anything. I guess you need to convince Hunch, because it was him to apparently named this creature as "giant bird". --Haruka 19:29, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

I completely agre with Spiral. --iHeckler9 07:31, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

I've changed my mind. I also remind that "Mocking Bird" is capitalized too. It is already 4 votes. --Haruka 12:36, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

The name of the level is merely a refe rence to the book To Kill a Mockingbird, which is why I don't believe 'Mocking Bird' is meant to be the name of the boss. 'Giant bird' certainly wasn't the brightest initiative, but at least it doesn't take for given what could only be part of a pun. As concerns capitalisation, that's the case for every level so I don't find it particularly relevant to the current issue. Moreover, neither 'Giant bird', 'Mocking bird' are even 'Daisy' are specific enough to designate the corresponding characters. Because a boss is a daisy means we should call it that? Why not refer to them as 'guardians'? After all, that's what the bird is called in the textures: music guardian (more precisely 'Guardian - Music World' according to Electoon). — 18:49, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Music guardian would sound fine to me. --Haruka 20:09, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

I disagree. The guardian bird is the yellow one that you have to fight during the moskito level (check the files, that bird is called "guardian-musicworld" too); it should also be noted that the Mocking Bird is a king, not a guardian.What's wrong with calling it a Mocking Bird anyway? It's a pun? yeah, It's based on a Book? sure! but it's not impossible, the bird does actually look like a Mockingbird (a ugly UGLY mockingbird). We had to accept "Crabby Shellfish" for the Ocean Spider article until we found the real name, why wouldn't we do that with this one?--Sergiomonty 22:36, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Gender?

Same as here -- 21:25, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

I'm a bit confused about this too, as the French article says female, meaning both the English and French ones contradict each other. I'd assume they're male, since they're The Four Kings, whereas a female would likely be called a Queen. -- 18:15, 14 August 2019 (CEST)

Maybe boombo has a good explanation for this? #Rubber mark# (talk) 18:55, 14 August 2019 (CEST)

I updated the article for now since it's a stub, but if there's a reason the bird should be female according to boombo, I can just substitute all mentions of he/him with she/her etc. -- 19:38, 14 August 2019 (CEST)

Oh, this an old topic.

I've talked about it with Hunch and Harpic on the French wiki a long time ago. And maybe on the forum, I don't remember.

Anyway, we said that the Mocking Bird should be a female because she has long eyelashes and a high-pitched voice, but most important, because she lays eggs. Same for Boss Bird (in Fiesta Run), since we're talking about female birds.

About Carnivora, we said that this boss should be a female too, because of her name (sounds like a female one), her voice (in her true form) and her species (it's a flower).

What about "the Four Kings", you may ask? Yeah, if there are female among them, the game should have called them "the Four Kings and Queens", or "the Four Rulers", or whatever.

My guess is that the game uses the usual rule in French grammar: when you speak about a group with men and women inside, you always use masculine terms.

Kinda debatable, I concede.--Boomboleros7 20:46, 14 August 2019 (CEST)

Thanks for your input boombo, I suppose the bird having eyelashes, guarding the nest, and laying eggs does make it sound female.

I was just assuming that "Kings" would mean they were male, but plenty of those signs do point to it being female.

I'll change the article so the gender is female. That way, it matches the French article, and I'll make sure to update the appearance section later too. -- 20:55, 14 August 2019 (CEST)