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===Giant Bird?===

==Giant Bird?==

Why did Hunchman change the name? I thought everybody here agreed to call it "Mocking Bird"--[[User:Sergiomonty|Sergiomonty]] 15:02, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

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:::::::I've changed my mind. I also remind that "Mocking Bird" is capitalized too. It is already 4 votes. --[[Image:Sparkle.gif]][[User:Haruka|Haruka]][[Image:Sparkle.gif]] 12:36, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

:The name of the level is merely a refe rence to the book ''To Kill a Mockingbird'', which is why I don't believe 'Mocking Bird' is meant to be the name of the boss. 'Giant bird' certainly wasn't the brightest initiative, but at least it doesn't take for given what could only be part of a pun. As concerns capitalisation, that's the case for every level so I don't find it particularly relevant to the current issue. Moreover, neither 'Giant bird', 'Mocking bird' are even 'Daisy' are specific enough to designate the corresponding characters. Because a boss is a daisy means we should call it that? Why not refer to them as 'guardians'? After all, that's what the bird is called in the textures: music guardian (more precisely 'Guardian - Music World' according to [[User:Electoon|Electoon]]). —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png|link=User:Hunchman801]] 18:49, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

:::::::::Music guardian would sound fine to me. --[[Image:Sparkle.gif]][[User:Haruka|Haruka]][[Image:Sparkle.gif]] 20:09, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

::::::::::I disagree. The guardian bird is the yellow one that you have to fight during the moskito level (check the files, that bird is called "guardian-musicworld" too); it should also be noted that the Mocking Bird is a king, not a guardian.What's wrong with calling it a Mocking Bird anyway? It's a pun? yeah, It's based on a Book? sure! but it's not impossible, the bird does actually look like a Mockingbird (a ugly UGLY mockingbird). We had to accept "Crabby Shellfish" for the [[Ocean Spider]] article until we found the real name, why wouldn't we do that with this one?--[[User:Sergiomonty|Sergiomonty]] 22:36, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

== Gender? ==

Same as [[Talk:Carnivora|here]] --[[File:Carrot signature.png|75px|link=User:Carrot-master]] 21:25, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

:I'm a bit confused about this too, as the French article says female, meaning both the English and French ones contradict each other. I'd assume they're male, since they're The Four Kings, whereas a female would likely be called a Queen. --[[File:Steo_sig.png|60px|link=User:Steo]] 18:15, 14 August 2019 (CEST)

::Maybe boombo has a good explanation for this? [[User:＃rubber mark＃|#Rubber mark#]] ([[User talk:＃rubber mark＃|talk]]) 18:55, 14 August 2019 (CEST)

:::I updated the article for now since it's a stub, but if there's a reason the bird should be female according to boombo, I can just substitute all mentions of he/him with she/her etc. --[[File:Steo_sig.png|60px|link=User:Steo]] 19:38, 14 August 2019 (CEST)

::::Oh, this an old topic.

::::I've talked about it with Hunch and Harpic on the French wiki a long time ago. And maybe on the forum, I don't remember.

::::Anyway, we said that the Mocking Bird should be a female because she has long eyelashes and a high-pitched voice, but most important, because she lays eggs. Same for Boss Bird (in ''Fiesta Run''), since we're talking about female birds.

::::About Carnivora, we said that this boss should be a female too, because of her name (sounds like a female one), her voice (in her true form) and her species (it's a flower).

::::What about "the Four Kings", you may ask? Yeah, if there are female among them, the game should have called them "the Four Kings and Queens", or "the Four Rulers", or whatever.

::::My guess is that the game uses the usual rule in French grammar: when you speak about a group with men and women inside, you always use masculine terms.

::::Kinda debatable, I concede.--[[User:Boomboleros7|Boomboleros7]] 20:46, 14 August 2019 (CEST)

:::::Thanks for your input boombo, I suppose the bird having eyelashes, guarding the nest, and laying eggs does make it sound female.

:::::I was just assuming that "Kings" would mean they were male, but plenty of those signs do point to it being female.

:::::I'll change the article so the gender is female. That way, it matches the French article, and I'll make sure to update the appearance section later too. --[[File:Steo_sig.png|60px|link=User:Steo]] 20:55, 14 August 2019 (CEST)

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 Why did Hunchman change the name? I thought everybody here agreed to call it "Mocking Bird"--[[User:Sergiomonty|Sergiomonty]] 15:02, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
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 :::::::I've changed my mind. I also remind that "Mocking Bird" is capitalized too. It is already 4 votes. --[[Image:Sparkle.gif]][[User:Haruka|Haruka]][[Image:Sparkle.gif]] 12:36, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 :The name of the level is merely a refe rence to the book ''To Kill a Mockingbird'', which is why I don't believe 'Mocking Bird' is meant to be the name of the boss. 'Giant bird' certainly wasn't the brightest initiative, but at least it doesn't take for given what could only be part of a pun. As concerns capitalisation, that's the case for every level so I don't find it particularly relevant to the current issue. Moreover, neither 'Giant bird', 'Mocking bird' are even 'Daisy' are specific enough to designate the corresponding characters. Because a boss is a daisy means we should call it that? Why not refer to them as 'guardians'? After all, that's what the bird is called in the textures: music guardian (more precisely 'Guardian - Music World' according to [[User:Electoon|Electoon]]). —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png|link=User:Hunchman801]] 18:49, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
+:::::::::Music guardian would sound fine to me. --[[Image:Sparkle.gif]][[User:Haruka|Haruka]][[Image:Sparkle.gif]] 20:09, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
+::::::::::I disagree. The guardian bird is the yellow one that you have to fight during the moskito level (check the files, that bird is called "guardian-musicworld" too); it should also be noted that the Mocking Bird is a king, not a guardian.What's wrong with calling it a Mocking Bird anyway? It's a pun? yeah, It's based on a Book? sure! but it's not impossible, the bird does actually look like a Mockingbird (a ugly UGLY mockingbird). We had to accept "Crabby Shellfish" for the [[Ocean Spider]] article until we found the real name, why wouldn't we do that with this one?--[[User:Sergiomonty|Sergiomonty]] 22:36, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
+== Gender? ==
+Same as [[Talk:Carnivora|here]] --[[File:Carrot signature.png|75px|link=User:Carrot-master]] 21:25, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
+:I'm a bit confused about this too, as the French article says female, meaning both the English and French ones contradict each other. I'd assume they're male, since they're The Four Kings, whereas a female would likely be called a Queen. --[[File:Steo_sig.png|60px|link=User:Steo]] 18:15, 14 August 2019 (CEST)
+::Maybe boombo has a good explanation for this? [[User:＃rubber mark＃|#Rubber mark#]] ([[User talk:＃rubber mark＃|talk]]) 18:55, 14 August 2019 (CEST)
+:::I updated the article for now since it's a stub, but if there's a reason the bird should be female according to boombo, I can just substitute all mentions of he/him with she/her etc. --[[File:Steo_sig.png|60px|link=User:Steo]] 19:38, 14 August 2019 (CEST)
+::::Oh, this an old topic.
+::::I've talked about it with Hunch and Harpic on the French wiki a long time ago. And maybe on the forum, I don't remember.
+::::Anyway, we said that the Mocking Bird should be a female because she has long eyelashes and a high-pitched voice, but most important, because she lays eggs. Same for Boss Bird (in ''Fiesta Run''), since we're talking about female birds.
+::::About Carnivora, we said that this boss should be a female too, because of her name (sounds like a female one), her voice (in her true form) and her species (it's a flower).
+::::What about "the Four Kings", you may ask? Yeah, if there are female among them, the game should have called them "the Four Kings and Queens", or "the Four Rulers", or whatever.
+::::My guess is that the game uses the usual rule in French grammar: when you speak about a group with men and women inside, you always use masculine terms.
+::::Kinda debatable, I concede.--[[User:Boomboleros7|Boomboleros7]] 20:46, 14 August 2019 (CEST)
+:::::Thanks for your input boombo, I suppose the bird having eyelashes, guarding the nest, and laying eggs does make it sound female.
+:::::I was just assuming that "Kings" would mean they were male, but plenty of those signs do point to it being female.
+:::::I'll change the article so the gender is female. That way, it matches the French article, and I'll make sure to update the appearance section later too. --[[File:Steo_sig.png|60px|link=User:Steo]] 20:55, 14 August 2019 (CEST)