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So I'm working on a new ranklist. I could use a Google Spreadsheet, which would probably be hassle for me, or I could just upload ODS files, which would be hassle for everyone, so maybe this can be a nice compromise!
So I'm working on a new ranklist. I could use a Google Spreadsheet, which would probably be hassle for me, or I could just upload ODS files, which would be hassle for everyone, so maybe this can be a nice compromise!


This can be discussed in [https://raymanpc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1429349#p1429349 the relevant forum topic].
This can be discussed in [https://raymanpc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1429416#p1429416 the relevant forum topic].


{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
|+ Straw ranklist
|+ Latest version based on [[User:Elite_piranha|Elite]]'s one, with some more changes
|-
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! Goodies !! Baddies !! Notes on linkage
! Zone !! [[Ting]] Level !! Goodies !! Baddies !! Notes on linkage
|-
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| [[Electoon]] || [[Antitoon]] || [[Electoon]]s and [[Antitoon]]s – what’s to explain?
| style="background: black;"|Negative Zone || -2<sup>63</sup> (I think!) || [[Hardrox]] || [[Hardrox]] || Negative rank
|-
|-
| [[Lum (Rayman Origins)]] || [[Jumping eye]] || [[Lum (Rayman Origins)|Lums in Origins]] are ubiquitous and inconsequential – [[Jumping eye]]s are likewise inconsequential
| rowspan="8" style="background: blue;"|Lum Zone || 0 || [[Electoon]] || [[Antitoon]] || [[Electoon]]s and [[Antitoon]]s – what’s to explain?
|-
|-
| [[Red Lum]] (R2) || [[Black Lum]] || As suggested by [[User:Elite Piranha|Elite]] – again pretty self-explanatory
| 25 || [[Lum (Rayman Origins)]] || [[Jumping eye]] || [[Lum (Rayman Origins)|Lums in Origins]] are ubiquitous and inconsequential [[Jumping eye]]s are likewise inconsequential
|-
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| [[Incrediball]] (Adventures) || [[Rabbid]] (basic) || I’m guessing both of these will be unpopular...
| 50 || [[Red Lum]] (R2) || [[Black Lum]] || As suggested by [[User:Elite_piranha|Elite]] – again pretty self-explanatory
|-
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| [[Tribelle]] || [[Janod]] ||  
| 75 || [[Green Lum]] || [[Helicopter bomb]] ||
|-
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| [[Matuvu]] || [[Devilbob]] ||  
| 100 || [[Blue Lum]] || [[Piranha]] || One gives you oxygen, the other one eats the bubbles you need to survive underwater
|-
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| [[Creature]] (Legends) || [[Lividstone]] ||  
| 125 || [[Purple Lum]] || [[Red Bird]] || Both can be used to move around the level, by grabbing or by hopping
|-
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| [[Photographer]] || [[Hunter]] || [[Photographer]] is checkpoint from R1, [[Hunter]] is a prominent enemy from the same game
| 150 || [[Yellow Lum]] (R2) || [[Zombie chicken]] || Both were created because of the pirate invasion
|-
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| [[Green Lum]] || [[Mini Jano]] || [[Green Lum]] is checkpoint from R2, [[Mini Jano]] is likely to send you back to one!
| 175 || [[Super Yellow Lum]] || [[Slapdash]] || [[Yellow Lum]]s give wisdom (Super ones especially so), [[Slapdash]]es are (particularly) stupid...
|-
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| [[Paluchard]] || [[Toad (Rayman Legends)]] || Marshy environments
| rowspan="10" style="background: orange;"|Minor creatures || 200 || [[Matuvu]] || [[Muddibog]] || Both like to hide <br> Transition to new zone increases [[Ting]] step from 25 to 50
|-
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| [[Blue Lum]] || [[Blowing bird]] || Connected by the element of air
| 250 || [[Tribelle]] || [[Podocrock]] || Both tricky to pin down and score points from
|-
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| [[Purple Lum]] || [[Mariachi]] || Tenuous – purple Lums assure coherence, whereas Mariachis’ bodies are falling apart!
| 300 || [[Creature]] (Legends) || [[Dark creature]] (Legends) || Makes more sense to me
|-
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| [[Yellow Lum]] (R2) || [[Zombie chicken]] || Both widespread but fairly inconsequential in R2
| 350 || [[Incrediball]] (Adventures) || [[Rabbid]] ||  
|-
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| [[Super Yellow Lum]] || [[Slapdash]] || Yellow Lums give wisdom (Super ones especially so), Slapdashes are stupid...
| 400 || [[Photographer]] || [[Lividstone]] || Both introduced early on in [[Rayman 1]]
|-
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| [[Baby Globox]] || [[Baby Dragon Chef]] || Both begin with “Baby”!
| 450 || [[Walking shell]] || [[Toad (Rayman Legends)]] ||  
|-
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| [[Monk]] || [[Trident fish]] ||  
| 500 || [[Paluchard]] || [[Tentacle claw]] || Good and evil grabbers
|-
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| [[Walking shell]] || [[Minotaur]] ||  
| 550 || [[Monk]] || [[Mariachi]] || Music related
|-
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| [[Golden Teensy]] (Legends) || [[Henchman 800]] || There’s a kind of pirate/treasure theme there...
| 600 || [[Baby Globox]] || [[Baby Dragon Chef]] || Both begin with “Baby”!
|-
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| [[Murkin]] || [[Robo-Gorilla]] ||  
| 650 || [[Ugly]] || [[Mini Jano]] || "Ugly" creatures, one helpful, the other terrifying and hurtful
|-
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| [[Green Teensy]] (the correct one!) || [[Hoodblaster]] || Each is the most basic of its kind
| rowspan="19" style="background: green;"|Teensie Zone || 750 || [[Golden Teensy]] (Legends) || [[Henchman 800]] || There’s a kind of pirate/treasure theme there... <br> Transition to new zone increases [[Ting]] step from 50 to 250, with a once-off jump of 100 (not the most elegant...)
|-
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| [[Sylkin]] || [[Hoodmonger Soldier]] || Each is a slight upgrade on the previous
| 1000 || [[Murkin]] || [[Gorilla Pirate]] ||  
|-
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| [[Goth Teensy]] || [[Hoodstormer]] ||  
| 1250 || [[Green Teensy]] || [[Hoodblaster]] || Each is the most basic of its kind
|-
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| [[Nookin]] || [[Hoodmonger Officer]] ||  
| 1500 || [[Sylkin]] || [[Hoodmonger Soldier]] || Each is a slight upgrade on the previous
|-
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| [[Tufkin]] || [[Stone man]] || Cold mountainous areas
| 1750 || [[Teensy Hermit]] || [[Hunter]] || Misanthropy
|-
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| [[Teensy Wizard]] || [[Heckler]] ||  
| 2000 || [[Tufkin]] || [[Stone man]] || Cold mountainous areas
|-
|-
| [[Ninja Teensy]] || [[Ninja Henchman]] || Ninja
| 2250 || [[Teensy Wizard]] || [[Henchman 1000]] ||  
|-
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| [[Fire Teensy]] || [[Hoodboom]] || Fire / explosions
| 2500 || [[Nookin]] || [[Hoodmonger Officer]] ||  
|-
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| [[Griskin]] || [[Hoodoo]] || Esoteric magic
| 2750 || [[Teen Punk]] || [[Hoodboom]] || Steam power versus fire / explosions
|-
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| [[Gandalf]] (Legends) || [[Dark Teensy]] || Magic Teensies, good and evil
| 3000 || [[Goth Teensy]] || [[Hoodstormer]] ||  
|-
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| [[Teensy Queen]] (Origins/Legends) || [[Pink]] || Well, pink...
| 3250 || [[Ninja Teensy]] || [[Ninja Henchman]] || Ninja
|-
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| [[Grand Minimus]] || [[Sergueï]] || Kingship, in a sense...
| 3500 || [[Griskin]] || [[Hoodoo]] || Esoteric magic <br> Transition to more important/mystical characters increases [[Ting]] step from 250 to 500
|-
|-
| [[First Grand Minimus]] || [[Henchman 1000]] || Antiquity (at least according to the English Rayman M manual...)
| 4000 || [[Elder Teensy|Gandalf]] (Legends) || [[Flaming Teensy]] || [[Elder Teensy|Gandalf]] gives powers in ''[[Rayman Legends]]'', [[Flaming Teensy]] shrinks the player in a similar manner in ''[[Rayman Mini]]''
|-
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| [[Otto Psi]] || [[Master Kaag]] || [[Clearleaf Forest]]
| 4500 || [[Teensy Queen]] (Origins/Legends) || [[Pink]] || Well, pink...
|-
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| [[Roméo Patti]] || [[Céloche]] || [[The Land of the Livid Dead (Rayman 3)]]
| 5000 || [[Grand Minimus]] || [[Heckler]] || Important [[Teensie]] versus big imposing [[Hoodlum]]
|-
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| [[Gonzo]] || [[Lavomatrix]] || [[Desert of the Knaaren]]
| 5500 || [[The First King]] || [[Knaaren]] || Ancient king versus the people led by [[Gumsi]], who is a young king – connection "by proxy", in a sense
|-
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| [[Barbara]] || [[Medieval Dragon]] || [[Teensies in Trouble]]
| 6000 || [[Otto Psi]] || [[Master Kaag]] || [[Clearleaf Forest]] <br> Transition to named characters increases [[Ting]] step from 500 to 1000
|-
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| [[Aurora]] || [[Armoured Toad]] || [[Toad Story]]
| 7000 || [[Roméo Patti]] || [[Céloche]] || [[The Land of the Livid Dead (Rayman 3)]]
|-
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| [[Estelia]] || [[El Luchador]] || La [[Fiesta de los Muertos]]
| 8000 || [[Gonzo]] || [[Reflux]] 1 || [[The Desert of the Knaaren]] (Is [[Reflux]] too low here?)
|-
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| [[Ursula]] || [[Mechanical Dragon]] || [[20,000 Lums Under the Sea]]
| style="background: black;"|Hub World Zone || 9000 || [[The Captain]] || [[Mister Death]] || These two feel like they go together since they both appear in hub worlds (I think).
|-
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| [[Olympia]] || [[Hades' Hand]] || [[Olympus Maximus]]
| rowspan="21" style="background: blue;"|Rayman’s allies <br> vs bosses || 10000 || [[Barbara]] || [[Medieval Dragon]] || [[Teensies in Trouble]] <br> Transition to new zone increases [[Ting]] step from 1000 to 2500
|-
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| [[Bzzit|Good Mosquito]] || [[Moskito|Bad Mosquito]] || Don’t go there...
| 12500 || [[Carnivora]] (Good) || [[Carnivora]] (Bad) || Self-explanatory
|-
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| [[Tarayzan]] || [[Mister Sax]] || [[Tarayzan]] is a [[Dream Forest]] friend, but can’t fit beside the mosquito
| 15000 || [[Aurora]] || [[Armoured Toad]] || [[Toad Story]]
|-
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| [[Musician]] || [[Mister Stone]] || [[Blue Mountains]]
| 17500 || [[Mocking Bird]] (Good) || [[Mocking Bird]] (Bad) || Self-explanatory
|-
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| [[Magician]] || [[Space Mama]] || [[Rayman 1]] characters that happen to fit neatly here I guess
| 20000 || [[Estelia]] || [[El Luchador]] || La [[Fiesta de los Muertos]]
|-
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| [[Joe]] || [[Skops]] || [[Caves of Skops]]
| 22500 || [[El Stomacho]] (Good) || [[El Stomacho]] (Bad) || Self-explanatory
|-
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| [[Carnivora]] (Good) || [[Carnivora]] (Bad) || Self-explanatory
| 25000 || [[Ursula]] || [[Mechanical Dragon]] || [[20,000 Lums Under the Sea]]
|-
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| [[Mocking Bird]] (Good) || [[Mocking Bird]] (Bad) || Self-explanatory
| 27500 || [[Creveton]] (Good) || [[Creveton]] (Bad) || Self-explanatory
|-
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| [[El Stomacho]] (Good) || [[El Stomacho]] (Bad) || Self-explanatory
| 30000 || [[Olympia]] || [[Hades' Hand]] || [[Olympus Maximus]]
|-
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| [[Creveton]] (Good) || [[Creveton]] (Bad) || Self-explanatory
| 32500 || [[Ssssam]] || [[Razoff]] || [[Razoff]] appears to have hunted/captured some of [[Ssssam]]'s species
|-
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| [[Sssam]] || [[Axel]] || Element of water
| 35000 || [[Tily]] || [[Bégoniax]] || Junior [[fairy]] versus witch – since [[Tily]]'s not fully-grown, it makes sense to have her down here (not in the fairy zone) <br> Junior [[fairy]] increases [[Ting]] step from 2500 to 5000
|-
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| [[Clark]] || [[Umber]] || Both are colossi, kinda.
| 40000 || [[Carmen]] || [[Eig]] || The sea / water
|-
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| [[Carmen]] || [[Foutch]] || Fire opposing water
| 45000 || [[Clark]] || [[Sergueï]] || Brute strength
|-
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| [[Uglette]] || [[Razorwife]] ||  
| 50000 || [[Magician]] || [[Dark Teensy]] || ''Theoretically'' good and evil versions of the same character
|-
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| [[Globox]] (Origins) || [[André]] || One swallowed the other
| 55000 || [[Bzzit|Good Mosquito]] || [[Moskito|Bad Mosquito]] ||  
|-
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| [[Betilla]] || [[Mecha Carnivora]] || [[Jibberish Jungle]]
| 60000 || [[Tarayzan]] || [[Mister Sax]] || [[Tarayzan]] is a [[Dream Forest]] friend, but can’t fit beside the mosquito
|-
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| [[Holly Luya]] || [[Mecha Mockingbird]] || [[Desert of Dijiridoos]]
| 65000 || [[Musician]] || [[Mister Stone]] || [[Blue Mountains]]
|-
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| [[Edith Up]] || [[Reflux]] 1 || Fire
| 70000 || [[Uglette]] || [[Space Mama]] || I guess they’re both mamas…
|-
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| [[Annetta Fish]] || ||  
| 75000 || [[Joe]] || [[Skops]] || [[Caves of Skops]]
|-
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| [[Helena Handbasket]] || [[Golem]] || [[Mystical Pique]]
| 80000 || [[Murfy]] || [[General]] || Transition to high-ranking ''[[Rayman 2]]'' characters increases [[Ting]] step from 5000 to 10000
|-
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| [[Voodoo Mamma]] || [[Big Mama]] || Self-explanatory
| 90000 || [[Globox]] (Origins) || [[Spyglass Pirate]] || Sidekicks of main characters
|-
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| [[Ly]] || [[Jano]] || Both very important characters from [[Rayman 2]]
| rowspan="7" style="background: red;"|Fairy Zone || 100000 || [[Holly Luya]] || [[Razorwife]] || Transition to new zone increases [[Ting]] step from 10000 to 25000
|-
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| [[Rayman]] 1 || [[Mister Dark]] ([[Rayman Mini]]?) || Tradition
| 125000 || [[Annetta Fish]] || [[Axel]] || Element of water
|-
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| [[Rayman]] 2 || [[Razorbeard]] || Tradition
| 150000 || [[Helena Handbasket]] || [[Umber]] || Umber is like the [[Golem]], who inhabits the same world as Helena
|-
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| [[Rayman]] 3 || [[Reflux]] 2 || Tradition
| 175000 || [[Edith Up]] || [[Foutch]] || Element of fire
|-
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| [[Rayman]] Origins || [[Raymesis]] || Ugh...
| 200000 || [[Ly]] || [[André]] || Transition to "big bads" as opposed to [[Guardian]]s increases [[Ting]] step from 25000 to 50000
|-
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| [[Rayman]] Legends || [[Shadow Ray]] || UGHHHHHHH...
| 250000 || [[Voodoo Mamma]] || [[Big Mama]] || Self-explanatory
|-
| 300000 || [[Betilla]] || [[Jano]] || First [[fairy]] versus first [[:Category:Nightmares of Polokus|nightmare]]
|-
| rowspan="5" style="background: purple;"|Rayman vs <br> final bosses || 400000 || [[Rayman]] 1 || [[Mister Dark]] (''[[Rayman 1]]'') || Tradition <br> Transition to new zone increases [[Ting]] step from 50000 to 100000
|-
| 500000 || [[Rayman]] 2 || [[Razorbeard]] || Tradition
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| 600000 || [[Rayman]] 3 || [[Reflux]] 2 || Tradition
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| 700000 || [[Rayman]] Origins || [[Raymesis]] ||
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| 800000 || [[Rayman]] Legends || [[Shadow Ray]] ||
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| style="background: magenta;"|Final Rank || 1000000 || [[Polokus]] || [[Mister Dark]] (''[[Rayman Mini]]'') || [[Ting]] step increased to final burst of 200000!
|}
|}

Latest revision as of 19:07, 11 February 2026

So I'm working on a new ranklist. I could use a Google Spreadsheet, which would probably be hassle for me, or I could just upload ODS files, which would be hassle for everyone, so maybe this can be a nice compromise!

This can be discussed in the relevant forum topic.

Latest version based on Elite's one, with some more changes
Zone Ting Level Goodies Baddies Notes on linkage
Negative Zone -263 (I think!) Hardrox Hardrox Negative rank
Lum Zone 0 Electoon Antitoon Electoons and Antitoons – what’s to explain?
25 Lum (Rayman Origins) Jumping eye Lums in Origins are ubiquitous and inconsequential – Jumping eyes are likewise inconsequential
50 Red Lum (R2) Black Lum As suggested by Elite – again pretty self-explanatory
75 Green Lum Helicopter bomb
100 Blue Lum Piranha One gives you oxygen, the other one eats the bubbles you need to survive underwater
125 Purple Lum Red Bird Both can be used to move around the level, by grabbing or by hopping
150 Yellow Lum (R2) Zombie chicken Both were created because of the pirate invasion
175 Super Yellow Lum Slapdash Yellow Lums give wisdom (Super ones especially so), Slapdashes are (particularly) stupid...
Minor creatures 200 Matuvu Muddibog Both like to hide
Transition to new zone increases Ting step from 25 to 50
250 Tribelle Podocrock Both tricky to pin down and score points from
300 Creature (Legends) Dark creature (Legends) Makes more sense to me
350 Incrediball (Adventures) Rabbid
400 Photographer Lividstone Both introduced early on in Rayman 1
450 Walking shell Toad (Rayman Legends)
500 Paluchard Tentacle claw Good and evil grabbers
550 Monk Mariachi Music related
600 Baby Globox Baby Dragon Chef Both begin with “Baby”!
650 Ugly Mini Jano "Ugly" creatures, one helpful, the other terrifying and hurtful
Teensie Zone 750 Golden Teensy (Legends) Henchman 800 There’s a kind of pirate/treasure theme there...
Transition to new zone increases Ting step from 50 to 250, with a once-off jump of 100 (not the most elegant...)
1000 Murkin Gorilla Pirate
1250 Green Teensy Hoodblaster Each is the most basic of its kind
1500 Sylkin Hoodmonger Soldier Each is a slight upgrade on the previous
1750 Teensy Hermit Hunter Misanthropy
2000 Tufkin Stone man Cold mountainous areas
2250 Teensy Wizard Henchman 1000
2500 Nookin Hoodmonger Officer
2750 Teen Punk Hoodboom Steam power versus fire / explosions
3000 Goth Teensy Hoodstormer
3250 Ninja Teensy Ninja Henchman Ninja
3500 Griskin Hoodoo Esoteric magic
Transition to more important/mystical characters increases Ting step from 250 to 500
4000 Gandalf (Legends) Flaming Teensy Gandalf gives powers in Rayman Legends, Flaming Teensy shrinks the player in a similar manner in Rayman Mini
4500 Teensy Queen (Origins/Legends) Pink Well, pink...
5000 Grand Minimus Heckler Important Teensie versus big imposing Hoodlum
5500 The First King Knaaren Ancient king versus the people led by Gumsi, who is a young king – connection "by proxy", in a sense
6000 Otto Psi Master Kaag Clearleaf Forest
Transition to named characters increases Ting step from 500 to 1000
7000 Roméo Patti Céloche The Land of the Livid Dead (Rayman 3)
8000 Gonzo Reflux 1 The Desert of the Knaaren (Is Reflux too low here?)
Hub World Zone 9000 The Captain Mister Death These two feel like they go together since they both appear in hub worlds (I think).
Rayman’s allies
vs bosses
10000 Barbara Medieval Dragon Teensies in Trouble
Transition to new zone increases Ting step from 1000 to 2500
12500 Carnivora (Good) Carnivora (Bad) Self-explanatory
15000 Aurora Armoured Toad Toad Story
17500 Mocking Bird (Good) Mocking Bird (Bad) Self-explanatory
20000 Estelia El Luchador La Fiesta de los Muertos
22500 El Stomacho (Good) El Stomacho (Bad) Self-explanatory
25000 Ursula Mechanical Dragon 20,000 Lums Under the Sea
27500 Creveton (Good) Creveton (Bad) Self-explanatory
30000 Olympia Hades' Hand Olympus Maximus
32500 Ssssam Razoff Razoff appears to have hunted/captured some of Ssssam's species
35000 Tily Bégoniax Junior fairy versus witch – since Tily's not fully-grown, it makes sense to have her down here (not in the fairy zone)
Junior fairy increases Ting step from 2500 to 5000
40000 Carmen Eig The sea / water
45000 Clark Sergueï Brute strength
50000 Magician Dark Teensy Theoretically good and evil versions of the same character
55000 Good Mosquito Bad Mosquito
60000 Tarayzan Mister Sax Tarayzan is a Dream Forest friend, but can’t fit beside the mosquito
65000 Musician Mister Stone Blue Mountains
70000 Uglette Space Mama I guess they’re both mamas…
75000 Joe Skops Caves of Skops
80000 Murfy General Transition to high-ranking Rayman 2 characters increases Ting step from 5000 to 10000
90000 Globox (Origins) Spyglass Pirate Sidekicks of main characters
Fairy Zone 100000 Holly Luya Razorwife Transition to new zone increases Ting step from 10000 to 25000
125000 Annetta Fish Axel Element of water
150000 Helena Handbasket Umber Umber is like the Golem, who inhabits the same world as Helena
175000 Edith Up Foutch Element of fire
200000 Ly André Transition to "big bads" as opposed to Guardians increases Ting step from 25000 to 50000
250000 Voodoo Mamma Big Mama Self-explanatory
300000 Betilla Jano First fairy versus first nightmare
Rayman vs
final bosses
400000 Rayman 1 Mister Dark (Rayman 1) Tradition
Transition to new zone increases Ting step from 50000 to 100000
500000 Rayman 2 Razorbeard Tradition
600000 Rayman 3 Reflux 2 Tradition
700000 Rayman Origins Raymesis
800000 Rayman Legends Shadow Ray
Final Rank 1000000 Polokus Mister Dark (Rayman Mini) Ting step increased to final burst of 200000!