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Put Mister Dark at the top instead, as per Rayman Saturn's suggestion
Brought in Elite's updates, and some of my own feedback, including moving the shell and monk below the Baby Globox
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|+ Straw ranklist
|+ Latest version based on [[User:Elite_piranha|Elite]]'s one, with some more changes
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! Goodies !! Baddies !! Notes on linkage
! Zone !! Goodies !! Baddies !! Notes on linkage
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| [[Hardrox]] || [[Hardrox]] || Negative rank
| style="background: black;"|Negative Zone || [[Hardrox]] || [[Hardrox]] || Negative rank
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| [[Electoon]] || [[Antitoon]] || [[Electoon]]s and [[Antitoon]]s – what’s to explain?
| rowspan="8" style="background: blue;"|Lum Zone || [[Electoon]] || [[Antitoon]] || [[Electoon]]s and [[Antitoon]]s – what’s to explain?
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| [[Lum (Rayman Origins)]] || [[Jumping eye]] || [[Lum (Rayman Origins)|Lums in Origins]] are ubiquitous and inconsequential – [[Jumping eye]]s are likewise inconsequential
| [[Lum (Rayman Origins)]] || [[Jumping eye]] || [[Lum (Rayman Origins)|Lums in Origins]] are ubiquitous and inconsequential – [[Jumping eye]]s are likewise inconsequential
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| [[Red Lum]] (R2) || [[Black Lum]] || As suggested by [[User:Elite Piranha|Elite]] – again pretty self-explanatory
| [[Red Lum]] (R2) || [[Black Lum]] || As suggested by [[User:Elite_piranha|Elite]] – again pretty self-explanatory
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| [[Creature]] (Legends) || [[Rabbid]] (basic) || One might mention cuteness...
| [[Green Lum]] || [[Mini Jano]] ||
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| [[Incrediball]] (Adventures) || [[Janod]] ||  
| [[Blue Lum]] || [[Piranha]] || One gives you oxygen, the other one eats the bubbles you need to survive underwater
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| [[Matuvu]] || [[Muddibog]] || Both like to hide
| [[Purple Lum]] || [[Red Bird]] || Both can be used to move around the level, by grabbing or by hopping
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| [[Tribelle]] || [[Podocrock]] || Both tricky to pin down and score points from
| [[Yellow Lum]] (R2) || [[Zombie chicken]] || Both were created because of the pirate invasion
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| [[Photographer]] || [[Lividstone]] || Both introduced early on in [[Rayman 1]]
| [[Super Yellow Lum]] || [[Slapdash]] || [[Yellow Lum]]s give wisdom (Super ones especially so), [[Slapdash]]es are (particularly) stupid...
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| [[Green Lum]] || [[Mini Jano]] || [[Green Lum]] is checkpoint from R2, [[Mini Jano]] is likely to send you back to one!
| rowspan="9" style="background: orange;"|Minor creatures || [[Matuvu]] || [[Muddibog]] || Both like to hide
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| [[Paluchard]] || [[Toad (Rayman Legends)]] || Marshy environments
| [[Tribelle]] || [[Podocrock]] || Both tricky to pin down and score points from
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| [[Blue Lum]] || [[Blowing bird]] || Connected by the element of air
| [[Creature]] (Legends) || [[Dark creature]] (Legends) || Makes more sense to me
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| [[Purple Lum]] || [[Mariachi]] || Tenuous – purple Lums assure coherence, whereas Mariachis’ bodies are falling apart!
| [[Incrediball]] (Adventures) || [[Rabbid]] ||  
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| [[Yellow Lum]] (R2) || [[Zombie chicken]] || Both widespread but fairly inconsequential in R2
| [[Photographer]] || [[Lividstone]] || Both introduced early on in [[Rayman 1]]
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| [[Super Yellow Lum]] || [[Slapdash]] || [[Yellow Lum]]s give wisdom (Super ones especially so), [[Slapdash]]es are (particularly) stupid...
| [[Walking shell]] || [[Toad (Rayman Legends)]] ||  
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| [[Baby Globox]] || [[Baby Dragon Chef]] || Both begin with “Baby”!
| [[Paluchard]] || [[Tentacle claw]] || Good and evil grabbers
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| [[Monk]] || [[Trident Fish]] ||  
| [[Monk]] || [[Mariachi]] || Music related
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| [[Walking shell]] || [[Minotaur]] ||  
| [[Baby Globox]] || [[Baby Dragon Chef]] || Both begin with “Baby”!
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| [[Golden Teensy]] (Legends) || [[Henchman 800]] || There’s a kind of pirate/treasure theme there...
| rowspan="19" style="background: green;"|Teensie Zone || [[Golden Teensy]] (Legends) || [[Henchman 800]] || There’s a kind of pirate/treasure theme there...
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| [[Murkin]] || [[Gorilla Pirate]] ||  
| [[Murkin]] || [[Gorilla Pirate]] ||  
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| [[Green Teensy]] (the correct one!) || [[Hoodblaster]] || Each is the most basic of its kind
| [[Green Teensy]] || [[Hoodblaster]] || Each is the most basic of its kind
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| [[Sylkin]] || [[Hoodmonger Soldier]] || Each is a slight upgrade on the previous
| [[Sylkin]] || [[Hoodmonger Soldier]] || Each is a slight upgrade on the previous
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| [[Nookin]] || [[Hoodmonger Officer]] ||  
| [[Nookin]] || [[Hoodmonger Officer]] ||  
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| [[Teen Punk]] || [[Hoodboom]] || Steam power versus fire / explosions
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| [[Goth Teensy]] || [[Hoodstormer]] ||  
| [[Goth Teensy]] || [[Hoodstormer]] ||  
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| [[Ninja Teensy]] || [[Ninja Henchman]] || Ninja
| [[Ninja Teensy]] || [[Ninja Henchman]] || Ninja
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| [[Teen Punk]] || [[Hoodboom]] || Steam power versus fire / explosions
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| [[Griskin]] || [[Hoodoo]] || Esoteric magic
| [[Griskin]] || [[Hoodoo]] || Esoteric magic
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| [[Grand Minimus]] || [[Heckler]] || Important [[Teensie]] versus big imposing [[Hoodlum]]
| [[Grand Minimus]] || [[Heckler]] || Important [[Teensie]] versus big imposing [[Hoodlum]]
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| [[The First King]] || [[Knaaren]] || We don't know much about the [[Knaaren]], but one could speculate that most of them are also ancient (apart from [[Gumsi]]...)
| [[The First King]] || [[Knaaren]] || Ancient king versus the people led by [[Gumsi]], who is a young king – connection "by proxy", in a sense
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| [[Otto Psi]] || [[Master Kaag]] || [[Clearleaf Forest]]
| [[Otto Psi]] || [[Master Kaag]] || [[Clearleaf Forest]]
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| [[Roméo Patti]] || [[Céloche]] || [[The Land of the Livid Dead (Rayman 3)]]
| [[Roméo Patti]] || [[Céloche]] || [[The Land of the Livid Dead (Rayman 3)]]
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| [[Gonzo]] || [[Sergueï]] || Two important named characters
| [[Gonzo]] || [[Reflux]] 1 || [[The Desert of the Knaaren]] (Is [[Reflux]] too low here?)
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| [[The Captain]] || [[Mister Death]] || These two feel like they go together since they both appear in hub worlds (I think).
| style="background: black;"|Hub World Zone || [[The Captain]] || [[Mister Death]] || These two feel like they go together since they both appear in hub worlds (I think).
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| [[Barbara]] || [[Medieval Dragon]] || [[Teensies in Trouble]]
| rowspan="21" style="background: blue;"|Rayman’s allies <br> vs bosses || [[Barbara]] || [[Medieval Dragon]] || [[Teensies in Trouble]]
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| [[Carnivora]] (Good) || [[Carnivora]] (Bad) || Self-explanatory
| [[Carnivora]] (Good) || [[Carnivora]] (Bad) || Self-explanatory
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| [[Ssssam]] || [[Razoff]] || [[Razoff]] appears to have hunted/captured some of [[Ssssam]]'s species
| [[Ssssam]] || [[Razoff]] || [[Razoff]] appears to have hunted/captured some of [[Ssssam]]'s species
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| [[Carmen]] || [[Bégoniax]] || Water/marsh – it makes sense to put [[Carmen]] above [[Ssssam]] since she's bigger, and it makes sense to put [[Bégoniax]] over [[Razoff]], since she ends up dominating him.
| [[Clara]] || [[Bégoniax]] || A [[Ludiv]] was suggested for here, but [[Clara]] fits better – that said, the latter is pretty obscure, so any other suggestions are welcome!
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| [[Carmen]] || [[Eig]] || The sea / water
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| [[Clark]] || [[Reflux]] 1 || Brute strength
| [[Clark]] || [[Sergueï]] || Brute strength
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| [[Magician]] || [[Dark Teensy]] || ''Theoretically'' good and evil versions of the same character
| [[Magician]] || [[Dark Teensy]] || ''Theoretically'' good and evil versions of the same character
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| [[Bzzit|Good Mosquito]] || [[Moskito|Bad Mosquito]] || Don’t go there...
| [[Bzzit|Good Mosquito]] || [[Moskito|Bad Mosquito]] ||  
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| [[Tarayzan]] || [[Mister Sax]] || [[Tarayzan]] is a [[Dream Forest]] friend, but can’t fit beside the mosquito
| [[Tarayzan]] || [[Mister Sax]] || [[Tarayzan]] is a [[Dream Forest]] friend, but can’t fit beside the mosquito
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| [[Musician]] || [[Mister Stone]] || [[Blue Mountains]]
| [[Musician]] || [[Mister Stone]] || [[Blue Mountains]]
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| [[Murfy]] || [[Space Mama]] || Characters that happen to fit neatly here I guess
| [[Uglette]] || [[Space Mama]] || I guess they’re both mamas…
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| [[Joe]] || [[Skops]] || [[Caves of Skops]]
| [[Joe]] || [[Skops]] || [[Caves of Skops]]
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| [[Uglette]] || [[General]] || Both appear near the end of ''[[Rayman 2]]''
| [[Murfy]] || [[General]] || I feel like Murfy should be higher than Uglette
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| [[Globox]] (Origins) || [[Spyglass Pirate]] || Sidekicks of main characters
| [[Globox]] (Origins) || [[Spyglass Pirate]] || Sidekicks of main characters
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| [[Holly Luya]] || [[André]] || Air [[fairy]] versus airborne evil entity
| rowspan="7" style="background: red;"|Fairy Zone || [[Holly Luya]] || [[Razorwife]] ||  
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| [[Annetta Fish]] || [[Axel]] || Element of water
| [[Annetta Fish]] || [[Axel]] || Element of water
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| [[Edith Up]] || [[Foutch]] || Element of fire
| [[Edith Up]] || [[Foutch]] || Element of fire
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| [[Ly]] || [[Razorwife]] || [[Rayman|Ray]]×[[Ly]] versus [[Razorbeard]]×[[Razorwife]] – or whatever floats your boat!
| [[Ly]] || [[André]] || It feels kind of wrong to have Razorwife higher than André
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| [[Voodoo Mamma]] || [[Big Mama]] || Self-explanatory
| [[Voodoo Mamma]] || [[Big Mama]] || Self-explanatory
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| [[Betilla]] || [[Jano]] || First [[fairy]] versus first [[:Category:Nightmares of Polokus|nightmare]]
| [[Betilla]] || [[Jano]] || First [[fairy]] versus first [[:Category:Nightmares of Polokus|nightmare]]
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| [[Rayman]] 1 || [[Mister Dark]] (''[[Rayman 1]]'') || Tradition
| rowspan="5" style="background: purple;"|Rayman vs <br> final bosses || [[Rayman]] 1 || [[Mister Dark]] (''[[Rayman 1]]'') || Tradition
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| [[Rayman]] 2 || [[Razorbeard]] || Tradition
| [[Rayman]] 2 || [[Razorbeard]] || Tradition
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| [[Rayman]] 3 || [[Reflux]] 2 || Tradition
| [[Rayman]] 3 || [[Reflux]] 2 || Tradition
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| [[Rayman]] Origins || [[Raymesis]] || Ugh...
| [[Rayman]] Origins || [[Raymesis]] ||  
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| [[Rayman]] Legends || [[Mister Dark]] (''[[Rayman Mini]]'') || As [https://raymanpc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1430901#p1430901 suggested] by [[User:Rayman saturn|Rayman Saturn]]
| [[Rayman]] Legends || [[Mister Dark]] (''[[Rayman Mini]]'') || As [https://raymanpc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1430901#p1430901 suggested] by [[User:Rayman_saturn|Rayman Saturn]]
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Revision as of 18:50, 7 March 2021

So I'm working on a new ranklist. I could use a Google Spreadsheet, which would probably be hassle for me, or I could just upload ODS files, which would be hassle for everyone, so maybe this can be a nice compromise!

This can be discussed in the relevant forum topic.

Latest version based on Elite's one, with some more changes
Zone Goodies Baddies Notes on linkage
Negative Zone Hardrox Hardrox Negative rank
Lum Zone Electoon Antitoon Electoons and Antitoons – what’s to explain?
Lum (Rayman Origins) Jumping eye Lums in Origins are ubiquitous and inconsequential – Jumping eyes are likewise inconsequential
Red Lum (R2) Black Lum As suggested by Elite – again pretty self-explanatory
Green Lum Mini Jano
Blue Lum Piranha One gives you oxygen, the other one eats the bubbles you need to survive underwater
Purple Lum Red Bird Both can be used to move around the level, by grabbing or by hopping
Yellow Lum (R2) Zombie chicken Both were created because of the pirate invasion
Super Yellow Lum Slapdash Yellow Lums give wisdom (Super ones especially so), Slapdashes are (particularly) stupid...
Minor creatures Matuvu Muddibog Both like to hide
Tribelle Podocrock Both tricky to pin down and score points from
Creature (Legends) Dark creature (Legends) Makes more sense to me
Incrediball (Adventures) Rabbid
Photographer Lividstone Both introduced early on in Rayman 1
Walking shell Toad (Rayman Legends)
Paluchard Tentacle claw Good and evil grabbers
Monk Mariachi Music related
Baby Globox Baby Dragon Chef Both begin with “Baby”!
Teensie Zone Golden Teensy (Legends) Henchman 800 There’s a kind of pirate/treasure theme there...
Murkin Gorilla Pirate
Green Teensy Hoodblaster Each is the most basic of its kind
Sylkin Hoodmonger Soldier Each is a slight upgrade on the previous
Teensy Hermit Hunter
Tufkin Stone man Cold mountainous areas
Teensy Wizard Henchman 1000
Nookin Hoodmonger Officer
Teen Punk Hoodboom Steam power versus fire / explosions
Goth Teensy Hoodstormer
Ninja Teensy Ninja Henchman Ninja
Griskin Hoodoo Esoteric magic
Gandalf (Legends) Flaming Teensy Gandalf gives powers in Rayman Legends, Flaming Teensy shrinks the player in a similar manner in Rayman Mini
Teensy Queen (Origins/Legends) Pink Well, pink...
Grand Minimus Heckler Important Teensie versus big imposing Hoodlum
The First King Knaaren Ancient king versus the people led by Gumsi, who is a young king – connection "by proxy", in a sense
Otto Psi Master Kaag Clearleaf Forest
Roméo Patti Céloche The Land of the Livid Dead (Rayman 3)
Gonzo Reflux 1 The Desert of the Knaaren (Is Reflux too low here?)
Hub World Zone The Captain Mister Death These two feel like they go together since they both appear in hub worlds (I think).
Rayman’s allies
vs bosses		 Barbara Medieval Dragon Teensies in Trouble
Carnivora (Good) Carnivora (Bad) Self-explanatory
Aurora Armoured Toad Toad Story
Mocking Bird (Good) Mocking Bird (Bad) Self-explanatory
Estelia El Luchador La Fiesta de los Muertos
El Stomacho (Good) El Stomacho (Bad) Self-explanatory
Ursula Mechanical Dragon 20,000 Lums Under the Sea
Creveton (Good) Creveton (Bad) Self-explanatory
Olympia Hades' Hand Olympus Maximus
Ssssam Razoff Razoff appears to have hunted/captured some of Ssssam's species
Clara Bégoniax A Ludiv was suggested for here, but Clara fits better – that said, the latter is pretty obscure, so any other suggestions are welcome!
Carmen Eig The sea / water
Clark Sergueï Brute strength
Magician Dark Teensy Theoretically good and evil versions of the same character
Good Mosquito Bad Mosquito
Tarayzan Mister Sax Tarayzan is a Dream Forest friend, but can’t fit beside the mosquito
Musician Mister Stone Blue Mountains
Uglette Space Mama I guess they’re both mamas…
Joe Skops Caves of Skops
Murfy General I feel like Murfy should be higher than Uglette
Globox (Origins) Spyglass Pirate Sidekicks of main characters
Fairy Zone Holly Luya Razorwife
Annetta Fish Axel Element of water
Helena Handbasket Umber Umber is like the Golem, who inhabits the same world as Helena
Edith Up Foutch Element of fire
Ly André It feels kind of wrong to have Razorwife higher than André
Voodoo Mamma Big Mama Self-explanatory
Betilla Jano First fairy versus first nightmare
Rayman vs
final bosses		 Rayman 1 Mister Dark (Rayman 1) Tradition
Rayman 2 Razorbeard Tradition
Rayman 3 Reflux 2 Tradition
Rayman Origins Raymesis
Rayman Legends Mister Dark (Rayman Mini) As suggested by Rayman Saturn
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